First of I love this idea of a journal, I it takes me a lot to hate a character and even when I do hate him, I still thinks the fans need to cut them some slack. Okay well first of sadly I can't supported is Adric, Peri, and Mels not that I don't hate them, I just hadn't seen the episodes yet.
Susan:Susan was hated for screaming too much and getting kidnapped a lot, while yes this is true but first of this show aired in 1963 woman where not really like Black Widow, Ziva David or Buffy the vampire slayer and second of, she was helpful, the flaming
skulls that they used to escape the caveman? Yeah that was her idea, she had to run though a whole dark forest to get the vials, cuz lan was paralysed, both the Doctor and Barbara where too unwell. It was her strong telepathy that helped pretty much though
the whole episode of the the Sensorites. She is also a kind fifteen year old woman, cares a lot for her grandfather(the Doctor) and feels like she needs to take care of him. Oh and there's also the fact that I think she is adorable.
Vicki:Honesty? I don't get why everybody says she is a Damsel in Distress, she was shown to be very useful sure she was not "ms saves the day" but she was capable enough, her at times not being able to understand some stuff, I don't know why was she from the future or something? Was also really funny.
Rose: While I did think RTD made a mistake while writing her with the Tenth Doctor, I never hated her people called her heartless for dumping Mickey, for being jealous of Sarah Jane when it turned out that Rose was not his first, first of Rose was told that the
TARDIS was a time machine she thought that if she ran off with the Doctor then she could come back and do to the TARDIS being a TM it would be like she never left. When it turned out the TARDIS made a mistake and she was gone for one year she felt
AWFUL for it, now to Rose being jealous first of it is not like woman didn't get jealous they do pretty much all of them do, second of Sarah Jane was also not on good terms with her, then they both realized how childish they where being laughed then became good
friends. They used more things of her being heartless and jealous but I already made my point, and now the for the last stand for her, they call her a Damsel in Distress does Rose got kidnap? Yes but EVERY COMPANIONS GETS KIDNAPPED EVERY LITTLE
ONE EVEN THE FIGHTING ONES. She was not just a Damsel in Distress she shot a possessed men by the Beast(who could have been a Demon, even Satan but I didn't think it was Satan but yes a demon) with a "go to hell" after she left the Doctor but not
by choice she want looking for him, from world to world with the biggest gun. People also hated her for that but for reasons I also disagree with but this rant is long enough.
Martha:*Sigh* oh hating a character for shipping reasons, yes people Martha fall in love with the Doctor who was hung up by Rose(both the Doctor and Rose liked etch other) shame her for it! How dare she fall in love with Rose's true love! And she is jealous too?! *sigh* what is it with fans and giving a character hell for being jealous? It is not liked they don't get jealous when they see
they crush giving love looks to they boyfriends/girlfriends. Also I don't blame Martha for getting a bit jealous/sad over the Doctor being hung up by Rose he talked about her, in front of her, how would you like it if your crush was talking about his/her ex
boyfriend/girlfriend, I get why the Doctor misses her I don't even think he know Martha liked him into later, but I see why Martha is
coming from. And do you know want to two things that still grinds my gears?
1.Martha is OVER THE Doctor she married Mickey Smith, why are they still hating her?
2.The whole Rose vs Martha war which is still going on can't we settle it? Both Rose and Martha are happy the storyline had ended, why can't we just like both Rose and Martha like I(and thankfully others) do?
Amy:Well I can't call her the s world as I'm not allowed to say it, but fans call Amy a s*** yes Amy did kiss the Doctor before her wedding night, yes it was bad for her but she nearly died it does things to people's mind, yes she did have one episode where she wonders if Rory is her true love or does she love the Doctor in the end she chose RORY, did she flirted with a men in roman armor?
Did she had a short fling with Vincent Van Gogh(the show does things like that...) yes but she COULDN'T REMEMBER RORY AT THE TIME he was erased from time itself she shown her love for Rory plenty times, she hadn't batted her eyes at anybody since
that that roman guy, which was one little scene and nothing came out of it. Oh yes people also thinks she is horrible woman do her being feisty, not every woman has to be nice kind sweet woman.
River:People call River a Mary Sue, of course rather is River a SM is up to the viewers, well I don't think she is, okay people think River is being shoved done the viewers throats, but River is not in every episode, And is mostly left for hints of in future episodes she mostly is in just the start of the season and the ending of the season.
annoyed( Misogyny report? *GASP* )
I'm done with this misogyny crap. So, what ya think about this?
cranky( Oh, OUAT fandom...don't you ever get tired of this? )
aggravated( Not wanting women to fight equals sexist )
( Hitting women is also sexist )
contemplative( Cut for spoilers for the unaired fourth episode of Legend of Korra. )
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Dear person who shall not be named,
If the idea of Ghinius getting any kind of love or appreciation is that disgusting to you, please take a good hard look at yourself and your values. Seriously. Yeah you might think he's a howwible worthless monster oh noez, but guess what, not everyone else does and THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. There is no character that deserves no love or fandom in any way, shape, or form, and even if there was, Ghinius sure isn't it.
Also, cut with the bawwwing about because you think Aina had it so much worse than him that he deserves no sympathy for his mental illness. While Aina's life certainly wasn't all rainbows and sunshine, Ghinius was 1. nowhere near the sole cause of her woes and misery and 2. suffering in ways she probably can't even begin to comprehend. Yes, the loved ones of the mentally ill do suffer much grief from it, but to act like their grief and pain is so much more important to acknowledge than the mentally ill person is kind of wrong. Ghinius didn't ask for, cause, or deserve to have abandonment issues to the point where his sister showing the least bit of disinterest in him causes him to snap. He didn't ask to have such a warped and barely-existent concept of self worth that he values a machine over his own life to the point of nearly killing himself for it. True, it doesn't justify his nastier actions, but Ghinius is not a character you can just make black and white condemnations of. Like it or not, because so much of what he does is rooted in severe mental illness that he can't exactly help, you can't just put all the blame for everything bad on him and say he's just evil and horrible and deserves to be ground into the dirt and loathed by everyone.
If you can like Char Aznable and think he's not a complete monster, I can do the same with Ghinius.
<3 A.r.
Okay, moving on. Disclaimer the second, I'm a Shinji/Rei shipper, so I'm not entirely unbiased here. And disclaimer the third, this isn't really a defense post, because, well, the people who weren't hating on Rei in the thread did an excellent job of defending her themselves, and I can't think of a way to say it better than they can.
So, with that out of the way...
( Into the bowels... )
This same guy is also bashing Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Crow Hogan in that thread, so he doesn't even have the decency to confine himself to one fandom...
And while THE dude in between isn't super ultra hated by everyone, the haters that he DOES have are VICIOUS. And their "reasons" make me want to bash my head on a wall.
( Looks like this dude was the one who predated Mamoru and Syaoran in terms of LOL LET'S HATE THE DUDE GURRRRLS FOREVUR. Spoilers! )
On the other hand, though? I've noticed that there's a character who also has somewhat of a hatedom, and some edges of it fall on a VERY disturbing light. So I'll give her a whole paragraph of her own. . .
( Lay off Nanako, 'fandom feminists'! )
On one hand, I can understand bashers' frustration with fans of certain popular characters elevating them to unnecessary and over-important rank, using them as tools to bash other characters, and white-washing their flaws and presenting them as flawless and perfect beings. However, on the other hand, I am of the opinion that the way some fans behave should not cause one to generalize a fandom and/or dislike/bash/hate a character. For instance, in the OUAT fandom, I still love Regina and Rumpelstiltskin/Mr. Gold and both of them are two of my favorite characters, in spite of them having a large number of fanbrats who frequently bend over backwards to white-wash them and/or use them to bash other characters. Same with Tony DiNozzo from N.C.I.S.; he's very popular and has a bunch of fanbrats who like to present him as an angel (in spite of it being canon that he is very a Jerk With A Heart of Gold. Yes, has a good heart, but still a jerk) and bash other characters for making the same mistakes and doing/saying the same things he does, but I still love him.
Also, I believe fandom should not sway your opinion and honestly, if fans are able to sway your opinion on a character and dislike/hate them, then you probably didn't like the character much in the first place and are using fans as an excuse. I would rather a basher be honest that they dislike/hate character than hide behind the example of some individuals acting nutty.
In short: do you think it's wrong to hate/bash a character because of fans? Do you have favorite characters who are usually bash because of this reason?
curious( Click to see how some people seem to forgotten what show they're watching... )
bitchyBeing emotional is not a FUCKING CRIME. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with Sakura with tears? It doesn't make her useless and pathetic. Some characters cry their eyes and I do not see ANYONE bashing the shit out of them. Oh, that's right. I forgot...some of those characters are MEN therefore, in the fandom's eyes, they get away with it (Correct me if I'm wrong) while the female characters get bashed hell and back. There's other thing...stop fucking blaming Sakura for not doing anything. The only person is behind it all is Kishimoto himself.
From,
ME
pissed off( Click to see how Ariel is "Ariel the Despicable." )
annoyedThere are one or two Shinji defenses here, but I'm throwing in my two cents, just to get it out of my system.
When I first got into Evangelion, I had heard from fans that Shinji was a whiny, wimpy emo kid with serious daddy issues. I braced myself and watched the series, preparing to at best tolerate him, and what did I find? A realistic, relatable main character who's actually very strong (if not in the conventional sense), and who is now my all-time favourite character in anything, ever.
So, here's my defense of him...
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( Some highlights (or rather lowlights) and my rebuttals. )
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( Edited because more rabid Rumpel fangirls put their foot in their mouth )
aggravatedI've seen this happen with Tsunade, Rangiku, and other female characters. And frankly, I'm tired of it. Does fandom ever complain when a man takes off his shirt? Or when he's flirting with the ladies and acts a bit cocky? Nope! Because it's okay for a male character to do it. But a female character doing this? She's just fanservice and that's all she'll ever be!
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